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Meet your podcast host Roland Cloutier, former Global Chief Security Officer at TikTok, ADP and EMC/Dell. We talk with the world's leading CISOs about the Shift to AI: what it means for security, what AI-driven development is doing to our programs, and what it takes to actually build agentic security.
Hear Poonacha Kongetira - CEO of Classie AI and former Google and NVIDIA infrastructure leader - unpack how tokens actually drive AI cost, when a workflow belongs in deterministic automation versus a model, and the three numbers every CISO needs before sitting down with the CFO.
Hear Stephen Ward - former CISO, board member, and cybersecurity investor - unpack the leadership lessons from sitting in every seat at the table. Hear what boards actually want, what the next generation of CISOs need, and what the real measure of a security leader is.
Hear Alex Levy - CISO at BNSF Railway - unpack why static playbooks can no longer keep pace with AI-driven change, and what it takes to defend critical infrastructure at machine speed.
Today's topic is "Shift Left Is Dead, Shift to AI." For years, we believed application security was about helping developers write more secure code. Today, the developer is often an AI agent, and the software factory itself has become the new perimeter.
Hear multiple-time CISOs - Ramy Houssaini, Chief Cyber Solutions Officer at Cloudflare, and Phani Dasari, Chief Trust Resiliency Officer at Firstsource - to unpack why the AI vulnerability storm is a permanent shift, not a passing trend. As Mythos-class models compress exploit time, they break down what security leaders must change now to stay ready.
SHIFT TO AI